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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}} [[User:TKN Bot|TKN Bot]] 19:05, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Elliott Argument ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to know if this, [[User:OptiPest/The Elliott Argument]] is appropriate for this site. If it is, can you advise me on the best place for it, or if not, I will delete it altogether. [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 19:16, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:* Thank you for placing it in your userspace and not being &amp;quot;willfully retarded&amp;quot;, as stated on your userpage. As it stands, I do not believe that article is appropriate for this site. I mean, discounting all the redlinks &amp;amp; lack of pictures, the content still does not relate much at all to lulz, drama, or the internet. You might write a blurb about it on another article or give it a subsection on [[Atheism]] though. [[User:TylerRosenow|TylerRosenow]] → &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TylerRosenow|☎]] [[Special:EmailUser/TylerRosenow|✉]] &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/TylerRosenow|✍]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;  19:20, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks! It met with some trouble when I put it on RationalWiki and Wikipedia declined it too. The actual creator of this junk is &amp;quot;Willully Retarded&amp;quot; and everyone was telling me we should put it on here. Before continuing any further, I wanted to know if there is anything I can do to make it better, such as creating an article on the creator himself and then linking the argument to him or just trashing the individual in question and adding it as a section. Any input would be greatly appreciated and I thank you for the info already provided. [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 19:27, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::* Mocking the [[aspie]] who created this content is more our style. You may wish to create an article about him with some external links as proof of his confusing faggotry... in which you can incorporate some of the &amp;#039;Argument&amp;#039;. [[User:TylerRosenow|TylerRosenow]] → &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TylerRosenow|☎]] [[Special:EmailUser/TylerRosenow|✉]] &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/TylerRosenow|✍]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;  19:31, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks! I will do just that! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 19:34, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*[[The Amazing Atheist]] is [[butthurt|well-aware]] of Encyclopedia Dramatica and has tried to blank his article on several occasions. This might be good for causing him some angst as well. E-FIGHT!!!! [[User:TylerRosenow|TylerRosenow]] → &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TylerRosenow|☎]] [[Special:EmailUser/TylerRosenow|✉]] &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/TylerRosenow|✍]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;  19:37, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, I mistook what you said to mean [[The Amazing Atheist]] tried to take down the Elliott Argument, instead you meant his own article! I am a lil slow sometimes! Fuck you very much! :) [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 20:09, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If you&amp;#039;d like some help writing an article about this abomination then give me a yell (I&amp;#039;m studying for finals and I&amp;#039;m a little busy, but holy shitballs I was about to write this myself anyway.) [[User:Foxytastic|Foxytastic]] 00:17, 12 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*I can definitely use some help in writing this. I have so much to add to it and it will probably be one of the longest articles on here! anything you can do to help fuck the guy up is greatly appreciated! Just click on [[User:OptiPest/Chad &amp;quot;Atheist Killa&amp;quot; Elliott]] and see what i have so far! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 02:18, 12 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: What you have looks pretty good but I think the main issues are it is a) much too long (I definitely think some of the argument itself could be summarized) and b) reads too much like a personal attack - I understand that the article is designed to ridicule him but I think that you have to write with a certain amount of detachment or it undermines the credibility of the author(s) and the article itself. I&amp;#039;ll have a go at this on my PC and get back to you. [[User:Foxytastic|Foxytastic]] 23:57, 12 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This moron isn&amp;#039;t worth our time.  I&amp;#039;d advise deleting this article as the stupid is currently burning my eyes--[[User:Educatedatheist|Educatedatheist]] 01:13, 12 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*If you don&amp;#039;t like it, fuck off and go play with yourself! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 02:16, 12 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*^this. you write about whatever you want, i lold (and fapped). -&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[user talk:hipcrime|hipcrime]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; [[File:Emote Pop tart cat.gif|link=user:hipcrime]] 13:57, 13 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== By the way ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can delete that other page if you&amp;#039;re done with it. (you just blanked it) [[User:TylerRosenow|TylerRosenow]] → &amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User_talk:TylerRosenow|☎]] [[Special:EmailUser/TylerRosenow|✉]] &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[Special:Contributions/TylerRosenow|✍]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;  19:41, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Please do! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 19:51, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RedLinks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to show that there are pages here with (almost) relevance that you could utilise here&amp;#039;s the first paragraph with a couple thrown in...&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Elliott Argument ===&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Elliott Argument&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; ...presupposes that [[atheists]] in fact only have two options for the existence of the [[universe]], and that it is logically impossible to present a third option.  Both of these supposed &amp;#039;&amp;#039;options&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are claimed by the author to be irrational, illogical, and have no evidence. They are presented throughout the [[No U|formal argument]] as well defined acronyms. The first one being &amp;#039;&amp;#039;STE&amp;#039;&amp;#039; which stands for [[Timecube|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Space Time]] [[My Immortal|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Eternal&amp;#039;&amp;#039;]], and the second being &amp;#039;&amp;#039;SCPNCEU&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, which represents the thought that &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Something can come from PURE [[Nothing|nothingness]] and then create entire universe(s).&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  According to &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Elliott Argument&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;STE&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is irrational and illogical for a number of reasons. The first based upon the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;alleged&amp;#039;&amp;#039; impossibility of an [[Forever|infinite regress]] of past events.  The claim is then made by the author, that there is absolutely [[evidence|no evidence]] that &amp;#039;&amp;#039;space and time themselves&amp;#039;&amp;#039; are in fact eternal in the past. The second acronym, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;SCPNCEU&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, is also &amp;#039;&amp;#039;claimed to be&amp;#039;&amp;#039; irrational and illogical by the author for many reasons. The most common claim made by the author here is that the acronym (SCPNCEU) in fact defies mathematical absolutes, the law of [[Slashdot effect|cause and effect]], known philosophical truths, and is in itself an inherently flawed concept.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;The author also makes the claim&amp;#039;&amp;#039; that there is in fact no known [[evidence]] that something can come from &amp;#039;pure&amp;#039; [[Nothing|nothingness]] and then that something create/or be responsible for creating entire universe(s), and that there is no evidence PURE nothingness can ever be achieved.&lt;br /&gt;
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- [[User_talk:Mr_Jonzz|Mr Jonzz]] [[File:Ae2.png|17px|link=User:Mr_Jonzz]] 19:57, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! I was just going to leave it as is, because it is a joke anyways and it looks good when there are RED links! But if I have to change it, I will! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 20:02, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No need to change it at all; just highlighting the fact that there&amp;#039;s stuff out there if you did. It&amp;#039;s probably a good idea to keep the disclaimer there at the top otherwise people might sperg-out...&lt;br /&gt;
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{{info| All {{Bigred|REDLINKS}} are intentional so leave them alone you fucking autist.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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- [[User_talk:Mr_Jonzz|Mr Jonzz]] [[File:Ae2.png|17px|link=User:Mr_Jonzz]] 20:56, 11 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== CAPTCHA? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can a [[Sysop]] turn off the CAPTCHA for me? This is getting ridiculous! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 13:10, 12 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article Completion? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I am done creating my article, do I just copy it over to a new article or do the [[Sysops]] move it for me? How do i request the article moved to it&amp;#039;s own location instead of a userspace?&lt;br /&gt;
:I&amp;#039;ll move it. {{User:Andrés/sig}} 21:58, 13 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*Can you look it over real quick and let me know if I need to tweak it? Thanks! [[User:OptiPest|OptiPest]] 22:56, 13 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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