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	According to [http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/4342/page/1 MMORPG.com, "As it stands, the RealID system is enabled by default on all accounts except those with parental controls (more on that later), and players who want to use the RealID system are unable to make any changes or select options as to how their information is shared."]		According to [http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/4342/page/1 MMORPG.com, "As it stands, the RealID system is enabled by default on all accounts except those with parental controls (more on that later), and players who want to use the RealID system are unable to make any changes or select options as to how their information is shared."]

	==Why it is a Bad Idea==		===Why it is a Bad Idea===
	[[Duh\|Because it's fucking WoW. WoW players are angry fucks.]] Moreso than anyone on ''[[EVE]]'' or [[EQ2]]'s Nagafen.		[[Duh\|Because it's fucking WoW. WoW players are angry fucks.]] Moreso than anyone on ''[[EVE]]'' or [[EQ2]]'s Nagafen.

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	[[Some argue\|Some say]] "yeah, but it gets rid of the trolls!" So does more moderation and perhaps using a global username for the forums. ''[[City of Heroes]]'' does this and it works. To an extent [[SOE]] does this as well but not to the level as COH does. Likewise, [[Steam]] uses a global username to allow players to communicate within the games it supports. While [[some argue\|some have argued]] that this will scare girls away, the real problem is it will reveal the [[male\|true gender]] of those playing female "toons", [[SANTA ISN'T REAL\|ruining other players' immersion]]. Still [[some argue\|more people argue that]] it's just a first and last name. A lot can be found from this information, however, especially if you have an uncommon name such as ''Micah Whipple''. Scroll down to see what happened to Mr. Whipple...		[[Some argue\|Some say]] "yeah, but it gets rid of the trolls!" So does more moderation and perhaps using a global username for the forums. ''[[City of Heroes]]'' does this and it works. To an extent [[SOE]] does this as well but not to the level as COH does. Likewise, [[Steam]] uses a global username to allow players to communicate within the games it supports. While [[some argue\|some have argued]] that this will scare girls away, the real problem is it will reveal the [[male\|true gender]] of those playing female "toons", [[SANTA ISN'T REAL\|ruining other players' immersion]]. Still [[some argue\|more people argue that]] it's just a first and last name. A lot can be found from this information, however, especially if you have an uncommon name such as ''Micah Whipple''. Scroll down to see what happened to Mr. Whipple...

	==Contradiction==		===Contradiction===
	{{quote\|Real ID is a completely '''[[Lie\|voluntary and optional]]''' level of identity that keeps players connected across all of Battle.net.\|[http://us.battle.net/realid/ battle.net]}}		{{quote\|Real ID is a completely '''[[Lie\|voluntary and optional]]''' level of identity that keeps players connected across all of Battle.net.\|[http://us.battle.net/realid/ battle.net]}}

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	==Micah Whipple Doxes Himself==		===Micah Whipple Doxes Himself===
	<!--[[image:Micahwhipple.png\|thumb\|right\|Micah Whipple being raped by [[v/\|/v/]]]]-->		<!--[[image:Micahwhipple.png\|thumb\|right\|Micah Whipple being raped by [[v/\|/v/]]]]-->
	To prove that Real ID wasn't [[lie\|that bad of an idea]], Blizzard employee [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374892&sid=1&pageNo=1 Bashiok posted] his full name: '''[[Powerword\|Micah Whipple]]'''. Within hours, his [[Facebook]] account, [[your mom\|mother]]'s name, addresses, phone numbers, and relatives were all found. Since then, he's been getting harassed nonstop, so much that he [[DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING\|deleted his Facebook profile]] and stopped picking up the phone. His [[dox]] are [http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wowriot+%28Latest+Wowriot+Blog+Posts+-+Wowriot.Gameriot.com%29&gr_i_ni here, have fun!]		To prove that Real ID wasn't [[lie\|that bad of an idea]], Blizzard employee [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374892&sid=1&pageNo=1 Bashiok posted] his full name: '''[[Powerword\|Micah Whipple]]'''. Within hours, his [[Facebook]] account, [[your mom\|mother]]'s name, addresses, phone numbers, and relatives were all found. Since then, he's been getting harassed nonstop, so much that he [[DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING\|deleted his Facebook profile]] and stopped picking up the phone. His [[dox]] are [http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wowriot+%28Latest+Wowriot+Blog+Posts+-+Wowriot.Gameriot.com%29&gr_i_ni here, have fun!]

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{{spoilers|BLIZZARD BACKED OUT ON IT AFTER PEOPLE THREATENED TO QUIT THE GAME! NOW THE FANBOYS ARE SAYING BLIZZARD IS THE GREATEST}}


In July 2010, [[War was beginning|Blizzard dropped a 50 megaton lolbomb on the Internets...]]

==What IS Real ID?==
'''Real ID''' is basically Activision-[[Blizzard]]'s attempt at being [[Facebook]]. It was first announced as being part of [[WoW]] patch 3.3.5, along with a shiny new loot piñata (likely included to distract players from these changes.) At first it was described as a chat system of sorts, similar to that included with [[Steam]], which allowed players to converse with their friends on other servers or in other Blizzard games (such as ''[[Starcraft 2]]'' or ''[[Diablo 3]]''). The only catch was that players were to use their real names, presumably to [[Identity theft|allow their friends to]] [[Dox|more easily find them in-game]]. A few wary gamers expressed concern that the system pulled information from battle.net profiles, which include [[IRL]] names and billing information. Aside from that, little else was said. The new chat system slightly inconvenienced players by breaking addons and providing an ugly, clunky new interface. Within a few days all was quiet again...

...Until July 6, when they made the dumbest announcement ever. In a misguided effort to fight off [[trolls]], Blizzard has decided to add real names to forum posts. It sounds optional, until you learn that the only optional bit is to have your [[fag|character]] name tacked on with your [[powerword]]. It will be implemented after the third expansion, ''Cataclysm''.

According to [http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/4342/page/1 MMORPG.com, "As it stands, the RealID system is enabled by default on all accounts except those with parental controls [more on that later], and players who want to use the RealID system are unable to make any changes or select options as to how their information is shared."]

==Why it is a Bad Idea==
[[Duh|Because it's fucking WoW. WoW players are angry fucks.]] Moreso than anyone on ''[[EVE]]'' or [[EQ2]]'s Nagafen.

In theory it's supposed to rid the official forums of their plague of [[troll]]s, but as a result non-trolls will be wary posting there as well, leaving the official forums a [[Tabula Rasa|ghost town]]. Sure, one could post on unofficial forums, but how then could one communicate easily with [[Geek Squad|technical support reps]] or [[India|customer service]]? Blizzard has a toll-free support line but upon dialing it, one is presented with a message stating that they are far too busy to even queue your call and to post on the official forums to have your questions answered. In-game reports also don't work, as it takes approximately forever for a GM to review a request, gather up a goofy [[RP]] script, and then send an in-game mail instead because the "petitioner" died three weeks ago and is now rotting. By the time anyone actually reaches a query, [[Barack Obama]] will be out of office.

[[Some argue|Some say]] "yeah, but it gets rid of the trolls!" So does more moderation and perhaps using a global username for the forums. ''[[City of Heroes]]'' does this and it works. To an extent [[SOE]] does this as well but not to the level as COH does. Likewise, [[Steam]] uses a global username to allow players to communicate within the games it supports. While [[some argue|some have argued]] that this will scare girls away, the real problem is it will reveal the [[male|true gender]] of those playing female "toons", [[SANTA ISN'T REAL|ruining other players' immersion]]. Still [[some argue|more people argue that]] it's just a first and last name. A lot can be found from this information, however, especially if you have an uncommon name such as ''Micah Whipple''. Scroll down to see what happened to Mr. Whipple...

==Contradiction==
{{quote|Real ID is a completely '''[[Lie|voluntary and optional]]''' level of identity that keeps players connected across all of Battle.net.|[http://us.battle.net/realid/ battle.net]}}

==The Community's Reactions==
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|This new system WILL give trolls and assholes the ultimate advantage in [[trolling]]. [[trolling irl|IRL trolling]].

[[Truth|WoW, is chock full of petty, vindictive little shits.]] [[GG|I quit]], mainly do to the community or, lack there of.

Giving them your real name, is like begging them to hack your [[Paypal]] or harass your family. They are pathetic enough to do it.

Blizzard has an entire task force to "manage the community". The CMs.
Why not just make it clear, that trolling will be absolutely unacceptable and, IP ban the trolls? Ban their credit card number.

Rules are only as good as the police that enforce them and the CM's are pathetic.

They let six years go by, and thus, set the miserable, joyless standard for their community. They LET the place go to shit.

As much as I'd love to see every loser who trolls those boards, have the bastard walloped out of them, I can't help but feel this is every piece of [[4chan]] [[b|trash]]'s dream come true.|Aislingi, of wow.com

|[If this happened in [[EQ2]]] I probably wouldn't be posting on the forums anymore.

The thing that concerns me is what if it spreads to in-game as well? And I mean completely, not the opt-in way they're going to be doing it.

There are so many privacy concerns. I don't want people finding who I am in [[IRL|RL]]. Which is what this will end up leading to. I wonder how many [[women]] actually post as guys to prevent harassment (especially on the [[Shit|WoW boards]]), now they won't be able to.

What if you have a [[Faggot Bruce|fairly unique name]], it would be easy to find you that way as well.|Silverglade, from EQ2Flames

|Cancel your account. If you let them get away with this, they'll just keep push and pushing.

It's all about money. It's not about being unable to post on the forums, it's about letting Bobby Kotick get away with murder.

If you think he's innocent, make you should take a look at this:

[http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252]

|Hi. You're going to call off RealID. You're going to publicly state that there is no need for RealID. Or... these guys are going to cancel their accounts. They're going to alert the New York Times, and the LA Times press-release style. Look, the people you are hurting are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fuck with us...| someone in the 2000-page clusterfuck that is the general forum.

|WoW is being milked for all it's worth. This game is dying, and if we don't take a stand now there will be no end to it. It may already be too late.|janettie7, of wow.com

|figured I might as well add something myself. And to see if I was really banned for a week for summing up my feelings in the form of [[Facepalm|ACII Patrick Stewart]].

I've always liked Blizzard as a company since they seem to be filled with people who care about their product. In an age were companies feel they can release any ol' crap on the market it's a nice reminder to see there are those that still care. Even a change like this doesn't make me want to send a brick through anyone's window (as opposed to the normal feelings of when I do send bricks through windows).

But this idea is still not a good one. Whether or not it was someone's idea to 'pitch at the forum users', it's stlll[sic] not a good one to be made. Many servers, particularly RP servers, rely on their forums to form events and communicate. By adding a feature like the game becomes less comfortable for many.

~Hoping you'll reconsider. And is astounded this is the largest thread on the forums where the community is largely in agreement.

(A little letter Blizzard will most likely never see, because they're handing out forum bans to...well, anyone who likes to sum up their feelings.)|Typhron, of wow.com

|What the hell are they thinking?

You know, as much as I despise forum trolls, the last thing I would want is everyone’s real name being attached to any question or comment made in the official forums, most especially when that is our primary avenue of help we resort to if we need technical support and can’t get into WoW to flag a ticket.

As the threat of identity theft rises, and as incidents of predators stalking children increases, how is forcing the reveal of player’s real names a good thing?

Is it somehow intended to encourage civility in the forum community? Guess what, the Moderators already have access to that data. If there are comments and a tone of discourse they don’t like… they can do something about it if they choose.

If the Moderators don’t choose to act in the first place, well, the trolls are supposed to what? Feel ashamed of having their real name tied to their words? Shame? A troll? REALLY?|Big Bear Butt}}|border=#00C8FF|background=#57DDFF}}
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==Micah Whipple Doxes Himself==

To prove that Real ID wasn't [[lie|that bad of an idea]], Blizzard employee [http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374892&sid=1&pageNo=1 Bashiok posted] his full name: '''[[Powerword|Micah Whipple]]'''. Within hours, his [[Facebook]] account, [[your mom|mother]]'s name, addresses, phone numbers, and relatives were all found. Since then, he's been getting harassed nonstop, so much that he [[DELETE FUCKING EVERYTHING|deleted his Facebook profile]] and stopped picking up the phone. His [[dox]] are [http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wowriot+%28Latest+Wowriot+Blog+Posts+-+Wowriot.Gameriot.com%29&gr_i_ni here, have fun!]

Perhaps this will prove to Blizzard that they're making a huge mistake.

According to [[goons]], "Did you know that Bashiok is tendering his resignation because of this? They didn't have the wrong guy. They had the correct person, but the wrong address. They had his mother's address. People were leaving notes on the door, she had to turn several pizza deliveries away. Oh, and eventually, they did find the right address. He's now staying in a motel."
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==Blizzard blows over==
As of 9 July 2010, due to an incredible amount of negative press ([[USI|including this very article]]) and outcry within the gaming community, Blizzard has [http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25968837163&sid=3000 canceled the plans to require Real ID in order to post on the forums]. The overwhelming numbers of trolls will continue to clog up the official forums, facing no opposition and no real threat of punishment. Micah Whipple [[divine intervention|valiantly sacrificed himself]] to allow this grand tradition to continue unabated.

{{quote|As a result of those discussions, we've decided '''at this time''' that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.|Mike Morhaime, co-founder and CEO of Blizzard Entertainment|This still may come back to haunt us.}}

Morhaime had recently gotten married and was on his honeymoon during the entire debacle. It is rumored that he returned from his honeymoon and furiously devoured [[Bobby Kotick|Robert Kotick]] whole.

But of course, it wasn't over yet. [http://www.wow.com/2010/07/12/esrb-unintentionally-exposes-email-addresses-of-people-who-filed/ The ESRB accidentally exposed email addresses of those who sent complaints about Real ID.] People who wanted to keep their e-privacy hidden had their shit leaked anyway. Oops.


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==See Also==

*''[[World of Warcraft]]''
*''[[Starcraft 2]]''
*''[[Diablo 3]]''
*[[Battle.net Forums]]
*[[Blizzard Entertainment]]
*[[Anonymous]]
*[[Facebook]]
*[[Dox]]
*[[Footbullet]]
*[[Powerword|Shadow Word: Death]]
*[[Asking for it]]

==External Links==
*[http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25626109041&sid=3000&pageNo=1 The official forum announcement. It is also the fastest growing thread in the WoW forums, ever.]
**[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1&pageNo=1 Europe edition!]
*[http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/official-forum-changes-real-life-names-to-be-displayed/ Wow.com's entry on the Real ID feature, complete with tons of posts on it.]
*[http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wowriot+%28Latest+Wowriot+Blog+Posts+-+Wowriot.Gameriot.com%29&gr_i_ni Micah's mishap, again.]
*[http://www.massively.com/2010/07/07/the-daily-grind-real-id-do-we-finally-have-our-wow-killer/ Massively says, "Do we finally have our WOW killer?]
*[http://thebigbearbutt.com/2010/07/06/planning-for-a-cataclysm/ Big Bear Butt considers this a cataclysm in more than one way.]
*[http://www.empoweredfire.com/2010/07/06/realid-and-forums/ Empowered Fire isn't happy either.]
*[http://churchofpangoria.blogspot.com/2010/07/small-voice.html Church of Pangoria thinks Real ID is bad, but probably won't hurt the money Blizzard gets, at all.]
*[http://commonsensegamer.com/?p=1935 Common Sense Gamer however... supports the idea.]
*[http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/07/06/1823202/Blizzard-To-Require-Real-First-and-Last-Names-For-Official-Forums Slashdot would obviously get on this.]
*[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10543100.stm The BBC as well!]
*[http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1 Blizzard and Facebook did a partnership before this. Could it be a catalyst?]
*[http://asnowstormbyanyothername.blogspot.com/ Megadox]
*[http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/boycottblizz A stupid pointless online petition that will make no difference]

===Blue Posts===
*[http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712374892&postId=256239747517&sid=1#16 HURR DURR DOX ME]
*[http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25833934170&postId=258687592327&sid=1#1 All Blizzard employees will use Real ID on the forums]
*[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1&pageNo=203#4053 If you don't like it, don't post on the forums.]
*[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1&pageNo=233#4655 No, seriously, don't post on the forums.]

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	...Until July 6, when they made the dumbest announcement ever. In a misguided effort to fight off [[trolls]], Blizzard has decided to add real names to forum posts. It sounds optional, until you learn that the only optional bit is to have your [[fag\|character]] name tacked on with your [[powerword]]. It will be implemented after the third expansion, ''Cataclysm''.		...Until July 6, when they made the dumbest announcement ever. In a misguided effort to fight off [[trolls]], Blizzard has decided to add real names to forum posts. It sounds optional, until you learn that the only optional bit is to have your [[fag\|character]] name tacked on with your [[powerword]]. It will be implemented after the third expansion, ''Cataclysm''.

	According to [http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/4342/page/1 MMORPG.com, "As it stands, the RealID system is enabled by default on all accounts except those with parental controls [more on that later], and players who want to use the RealID system are unable to make any changes or select options as to how their information is shared."]		According to [http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/4342/page/1 MMORPG.com, "As it stands, the RealID system is enabled by default on all accounts except those with parental controls (more on that later), and players who want to use the RealID system are unable to make any changes or select options as to how their information is shared."]

	==Why it is a Bad Idea==		==Why it is a Bad Idea==
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	*''[[World of Warcraft]]''		*''[[World of Warcraft]]''
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	*[http://churchofpangoria.blogspot.com/2010/07/small-voice.html Church of Pangoria thinks Real ID is bad, but probably won't hurt the money Blizzard gets, at all.]		*[http://churchofpangoria.blogspot.com/2010/07/small-voice.html Church of Pangoria thinks Real ID is bad, but probably won't hurt the money Blizzard gets, at all.]
	*[http://commonsensegamer.com/?p=1935 Common Sense Gamer however... supports the idea.]		*[http://commonsensegamer.com/?p=1935 Common Sense Gamer however... supports the idea.]
	*~~[http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/07/06/1823202/Blizzard-To-Require-Real-First-and-Last-Names-For-Official-Forums~~ Slashdot would obviously get on this.]		*{{archive\|Dqxu1\|Slashdot would obviously get on this.}}
	*[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10543100.stm The BBC as well!]		*[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/10543100.stm The BBC as well!]
	*[http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1 Blizzard and Facebook did a partnership before this. Could it be a catalyst?]		*[http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/blizzard-and-facebooks-friendly-social-networking-deal-launches-with-starcraft-ii-/1 Blizzard and Facebook did a partnership before this. Could it be a catalyst?]
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	*[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1&pageNo=233#4655 No, seriously, don't post on the forums.]		*[http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816838128&sid=1&pageNo=233#4655 No, seriously, don't post on the forums.]

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